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Midlands Football
Topic Started: Jan 10 2006, 11:18 AM (491 Views)
TJDIXI
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Trevor Francis
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Midlands football is in real need of a big lift. I's not just the fortunes of ourselves but also the Villians, Baggies, Coventry,wolves and walsall. At least the Wolves and Wallsall are in the top ten.

There seems to be a real low in west midlands football that we need to climb out of as an area. There should be no reason why we shouldn't be a hive of footballing talent as the area has been before. I'd like to see wolves join us the baggies and the villians in the top flight with walsall making it one day too. I'd love to see Moor Green push ninto the confrence and make a challenge for League 2 and i'd love to see Solihull Borough climb the pyramid again and become the rivals for Moor Green again.

This is a huge area in terms of population and prosperity and it would really benefit from the local football clubs attracting a bit of attention for winning cups and leagues and signing the £20million player.

I suppose i started thinking about this a while back but it came to head this morning on reading my paper when it spoke about derbys in the cup and mentioned them all except for the possibility of a West Midlands derby in the cup. Have our clubs become that unspectacular that a local derby bearly gains any sort of recognition? Couple this with the no show of the Blues-Villians game earlier this season and it seems to me that the press are turning there backs on this area. But why?

One reason has to be that no longer can we charge into a season in a cavaliar approach and risk all for glory. The game is all reliant on doing enough to survive and not taking the risk in case of failiure. Even our clubs further down the pyramid have to have the same considerations.

Another reason may be because the media have become lazy. We don't use the press in the same way we have done in the past. Now we can listen to any game in the league just by clicking on a mouse, so real journalism is dying. How many match reports do you read in one paper then read in another and realise that they are almost word for word? well most of them are cause papers use news agaencies to cover the lesser games rather than send a wet behind the ears keen reporter to a game. Especialy with the lower clubs you don't always feel that they are getting the write up that they deserve at times.

Is because of the money? whilst the money from the premier league (BSKYB) has been a real boost to most clubs it has tended to favour the few instead of the many.

Location, Location, location is so important. How much do we suffer as football clubs because of the reputation of where we are based. Living outside of the West Midlands for 8 years now i continualy hear bad stories of traffic jams in Birmingham or times when they met a person from the area and couldn't understand a word that they were saying. Not being blessed (and i do wish i had one) a Birmingham accent i often walk away as i have now learnt that trying to defend anywhere north of Watford gap is pointless to a soft southerner. The reputation of the area is growing again with thanks in no small part to Selfridges and a visible advertising campaign. It still hurts me to see that a city like Liverpoool with little culture and little idea of how to accept and develop culture can ever be considered capital of culture!

So what is it? How can we put the west Midlands back on the map as a footballing power house as a force to be reckoned with? In some respects it takes the supporters to keep on supporting and getting others involved. We need to keep our rivalries, but without the ugly element of it. But most of all we do need to keep talking the area up and supporting West Midlands football as a whole as well as our own because what we need is for the region to be buzzing with success and holding on to it rather than defeating ourselves. The east Midlands had it once isn't it the west Midlands turn to dictate football to the country a bit?

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all midlands football has been crap for years,

even when the vile were getting into europe they were never real contenders to chalenge for it.

the midlands has always been passed by interms of success and has never had the backing of there repsective councils.

IMO
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it could be that a city of Birmingham stadium may start the revolution. I'm fairly sure that that sporting success leads to higher turnovers, more jobs and a nicer place to live mainly because the serfs are happy in there work, skiving drops and sickness falls. A little bit of help for west mids footie from Birmingham, Covenrty, Sandwell, Solihull councils etc wouldn't go a miss IMO
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TJDIXI
Jan 10 2006, 11:26 AM
it could be that a city of Birmingham stadium may start the revolution. I'm fairly sure that that sporting success leads to higher turnovers, more jobs and a nicer place to live mainly because the serfs are happy in there work, skiving drops and sickness falls. A little bit of help for west mids footie from Birmingham, Covenrty, Sandwell, Solihull councils etc wouldn't go a miss IMO

yeah i agree respective councils need to be doing things such as new stadiums.

the pluses outway the minuses as you say.

it's a great way to regenerate a city .
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The stadium are definately a key factor.

Being in the midlands should be an advantage not the other way around.

Sadly the local stadiums are below par - the City of Birmingham Stadium is vital.

And the stadiums need to produce more than just match day revenue; concerts and boxing etc. is wonderful for the fans and venue and produces great revenue.

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what worries me is that if we go down this year and the baggies also slide (which is a strong possibility) then although the vila fans will mock Midlands football would seem flater than it already does.

For me all i see in the midlands are teams doing enough to stay put and not challenging for the top. It would have been great to see Blues, Villians and the baggies battle it out for the forth champs league spot rather than deal wih the prospect of relegation each season.

West Mids football needs a boost and i think Blues the Villa and the Albio staying clear of trouble with Cov and the Wolves coming back up it could happen. Even though it is highly unlikely to happen

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harry
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The biggest factor is lack of ambition and acceptance of mediocrity.

What can the fans do ?? Stop saying "17th would a success this season" for a start.

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Jan 10 2006, 03:10 PM
The biggest factor is lack of ambition and acceptance of mediocrity.

What can the fans do ?? Stop saying "17th would a success this season" for a start.

agreed i dont see finishing 17th a success i see it as failier considering the amont of money that has been spent and the price of tickets.

i would be happy to stay up but i wont be exstatic about it.
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It is sad that a big area like this cannot generate one or two sides that are always competing for at least a top six spot.

When you look across Europe, and each countries leagues, you tend to see the bigger cities are represented at the top of the league while the smaller areas and towns represented are mainly down the bottom end of the league.

I think it comes down to ambition of the boards and speculating to acculmulate. The catchment area is huge and if any one club suddenly propelled itself as a regular achiever in the top six and perhaps competing seriously for silverware, you would see the attitude of support change, plus an increased "want" of people wishing to see that club play.

People go on about the likes of the passion in the North East, there is still as much right here in the midlands, sadly though as Harry pointed out, too many people are happy at being mediocre and just happy to be in the league, instead of wanting to win it and defy being here to just make up the numbers..........
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i honestly think a large proportion of blame for this malaise can be laid at the governments' door - when did they ever back the midlands for anything major when london/manchester/glasgow were alternatives?
lack of investment being the root cause by all parties though, sounds right to me... ;)
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even both manchester teams are doing better <_<
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TJDIXI
Jan 10 2006, 11:18 AM
Midlands football is in real need of a big lift. I's not just the fortunes of ourselves but also the Villians, Baggies, Coventry,wolves and walsall. At least the Wolves and Wallsall are in the top ten.

There seems to be a real low in west midlands football that we need to climb out of as an area. There should be no reason why we shouldn't be a hive of footballing talent as the area has been before.

Great post. A theme I have been banging on about for ages. So what is the common factor? I believe I know what that is, but it is not a popular view on these boards.
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West Midland football has been suffering for a while, Wolves should on paper have been promoted back to the prem last season, as for this seson wer all doin crap really exept Wallsall and really they shud be in the championship.
Covenrty are no Championship club either really, what with the ground theyve got nowadays. Im not entirely for the new ground but if it can improve our fortunes then go for it !! :D
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Yes i would like to see midland clubs doing well, just look at the reaction to the baggies with our homw crowd a couple of seasons ago when they stayed up. Doubt the same response would have happened if it were the villa. But to be honest they all could go down and i wouldnt really care has long as blues are ok. I doubt other fans of the midlands clubs cared to much about the blues being in the old 3rd division, and our future looked bleak. So why should we care for their plight?
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When it comes to the rivalry i dont really mind the baggies or wallsall its just the **** and wolves really. to be honest i was happy for the baggies when they stayed up but that was mainly because they have the hors , legend !!!! :D
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It starts at the bottom,with everything ...if you go to mancs/liv/new etc u see the following.....the local media always support the local teams not denigrate them like ours............the local councils are totally behind their clubs and will do everything possible to facilitate them .....(and fans) not ours!.....even the local police on matchday are helpfull,not ours...then we can start at the bottom staff.are they all on board?I think not..The kids are looked after in the whole area...I think not...I could go right through the club with this even including this board....until we all kick the same way nothing will come about in midlands soccer...... a pelican crossing at the bottom of kingston hill etc....there are thousands of points which would help but NOT in this city!!!! That is why I believe the club should move over the border and take their money with them to a more agreeable authority,then see the squeal!The council will make sure that if the casino comes here they will be in a win/win situation...They sold our gas/electric/telephone/water everything off.lets take the footie out.as.well. The council are getting to the position where all those moving out of the city are the council tax payers and those coming in are not.....no tax,no money...Put the screws on Blues....the council can only tax businesses in 20yrs time and they will move out...Strike now and revamp the cities support for our clubs..Although biaised to them they dont even do the vilea justice..
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Jan 10 2006, 09:38 PM
It starts at the bottom,with everything ...if you go to mancs/liv/new etc u see the following.....the local media always support the local teams not denigrate them like ours............the local councils are totally behind their clubs and will do everything possible to facilitate them .....(and fans) not ours!.....even the local police on matchday are helpfull,not ours...then we can start at the bottom staff.are they all on board?I think not..The kids are looked after in the whole area...I think not...I could go right through the club with this even including this board....until we all kick the same way nothing will come about in midlands soccer...... a pelican crossing at the bottom of kingston hill etc....there are thousands of points which would help but NOT in this city!!!! That is why I believe the club should move over the border and take their money with them to a more agreeable authority,then see the squeal!The council will make sure that if the casino comes here they will be in a win/win situation...They sold our gas/electric/telephone/water everything off.lets take the footie out.as.well. The council are getting to the position where all those moving out of the city are the council tax payers and those coming in are not.....no tax,no money...Put the screws on Blues....the council can only tax businesses in 20yrs time and they will move out...Strike now and revamp the cities support for our clubs..Although biaised to them they dont even do the vilea justice..

yeah, yeah, but apart from that - everything ok ?
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There is only one common factor.
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Jan 10 2006, 10:30 PM
There is only one common factor.

They are all in the midlands.

And they are all football clubs.

That's two for starters.
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garrybaldy
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cryptic :ph43r:
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Jan 10 2006, 10:33 PM
cryptic :ph43r:

no he's waiting to ask what

and his aswer will be .

THE FANS
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Spot on dr.nick. I must be getting through at last.

No one here will accept it as an issue because it actually means them looking critically at themselves. Now that wont do will it. Lets all blame soemone else. Doesn't matter who, as long as it is not us.
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oh for gods sake here we go again :rolleyes:
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Jan 10 2006, 10:38 PM
Spot on dr.nick. I must be getting through at last.

No one here will accept it as an issue because it actually means them looking critically at themselves. Now that wont do will it. Lets all blame soemone else. Doesn't matter who, as long as it is not us.

told ya. :D

sorry pat but i support the club no boo's from the kid.

but were not to blame.
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harry
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Jan 10 2006, 10:38 PM
Spot on dr.nick. I must be getting through at last.

No one here will accept it as an issue because it actually means them looking critically at themselves. Now that wont do will it. Lets all blame soemone else. Doesn't matter who, as long as it is not us.

I'm willing to accept that it's all my fault. I am planning to spend most of tomorrow practising set-pieces, keeping hold of the ball and not giving the opposition any room to play.
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